515 Loupe 11-12-2019

M15P4LDW TAKE A LOOK at President Trump telephone call conversation with President
Zelenskyy of Ukraine


President Trump: Congratulations on a great victory. We all
watched from the United States and you did a terrific. job. The
way you came from behind, somebody who wasn’t given much of a
chance, and you ended up winning easily. It’ a fantastic
achievement. Congratulations.

President Zelenskyy: You are absolutely right Mr.
President. We did win big and we worked hard for this. We worked
a lot but I would like to confess to you that I had an
opportunity to learn from you. We used quite a few of your
skills and knowledge and were able to use it as an example for
our elections and yes, it is true that these were unique

We were in a unique situation that we were able to achieve a unique success. I’m able to tell you the following; the first time, you called me to congratulate me when I won my presidential election, and the second time you are now calling me when my party won the parliamentary election. I think I should run more often so you can call me more often and we can
talk over the phone more often.


President Trump: [laughter] That’s a very good idea. I think your c·ountry is very happy about that.


President Zelenskyy: Well yes, to tell you the truth, we
are trying to work hard because we wanted to drain the swamp
here in our country. We brought in many many new people. Not the
old politicians, not the typical politicians, because we want to
have a new format and a new type of government .. You are a great
teacher for us and in that.

President Trump: Well it is very nice of you to say that. I
will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort
and a lot of time. Much more than the European countries are
·doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany
does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think
it’s something that you should really ask them about. When I was
speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she doesn’t do·
anything. A lot of the European countries are the same way so I
think it’s something you want to look at but the United States
has been very ·very good to Ukraine. I wouldn’t say that it’s
reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not
good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine.


President Zelenskyy: Yes, you are·absolutely right not only 100%, but actually, 1000% and I can tell you the following I did talk to Angela Merkel and I did meet with her. I also met and talked with Macron and I told them that they are not doing
quite as much as they need to be doing on the issues with the
sanctions. They are not enforcing the sanctions. They are not
working as much as they should work for Ukraine. It turns out
that even though logically, the European Union should be our
biggest partner but technically the United States is a much
bigger partner than the European Union and I’m very grateful to
you for that because the United States is doing quite a lot for
Ukraine. Much more than the European Union especially when we
are talking about sanctions against the Russian Federation. I
 would also·like to thank you·for.your great support in the area
of defense. We. are ready to continue to cooperate for the next
steps. specifically, we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from
the United· States for defense purposes.


President Trump: I would like you to do us a favor though
because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a
lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with
this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike. I guess
you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say
Ukraine has it There is a lot of things that went on, the whole situation

I think you are surrounding yourself with some
of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it.

As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller an incompetent performance.

But they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you. do it if that’s possible.

President Zelenskyy: Yes it is. very important for me and
everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a
President, it is very important and we are open to any future

We are ready to open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine for that purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from the United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two
nations are getting closer.

I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations·with you so we can cooperate even more so. I will
personally tell you that one· of my assistants spoke with Mr.
Giuliani just.recently and we are hoping very much that Mr.
G1uliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once
· he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that
you have nobody but friends around us. I w.ill make sure that I
surround myself with the best and most experienced people.

also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have. friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround
 myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly That I can assure you.

President Trump: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor
who· was very·good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair.
A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your
very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people
involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_
mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you.

I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what’s happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great.

The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in Ukraine were bad
news so I just wanted to let you know that.

The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Eiden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.
Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it. It sounds horrible to me.

President Zelenskyy: I wanted to tell you about the
prosecutor. First of all, I understand and I’m knowledgeable
.about the situation. Since we have won the absolute majority in
our Parliament; the next prosecutor general will be 100% my
person, my candidate, who will be approved, by the parliament and
will start. as a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look.
into the situation, specifically to the company that you
mentioned in this issue.

The issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure to restore honesty
so we will take care of that and will work on the investigation of the case.

On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have
any additional information that you can provide to µs, it would_
be very helpful for the investigation to make· sure that we
administer justice in our country with regard: to the Ambassador
to the United States from Ukraine as far as I recall her name
was Ivanovich. It was great that you were the first one. who told
me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree·with you 100%.
Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the
previous President and she was on his side. She would not accept
me as a new President well enough.


President Trump: Well she’ s going through some
things. I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I  am also
going to have Attorney General Barr calls and we will get to the
bottom of it.

I’m sure you will figure it out. I heard the
the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor so good luck with everything.

Your economy is going to get better and better I predict. You have a lot of assets. It’s a great country. I have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible people.


President Zelenskyy: I would like to tell you that I also
have quite a few Ukraine friends that live in the United·
States. ·Actually last time I traveled to the United States, I
stayed in New York near Central Park and I stayed at the Trump Tower, I will talk to them and I hope to see them again in the future.

I also wanted to thank you for your invitation to visit the United States, specifically Washington DC.

On the other hand, I also want to ensure you that we will. be very serious
about it. the case and will work on the investigation, as to the economy, there is much potential for our two countries and one of the issues that are very important for Ukraine is energy independence.

I believe we can be very successful. and
cooperating on energy independence with the United States. We are already working on cooperation.

We are buying American oil but I am very hopeful for a future meeting, we will have more time and more opportunities to discuss these opportunities and get to know each other better. I would like to thank you very much for your support


President Trump: Good. Well., thank you very much and I appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would like to come to the White House feel free to call. Give us a date and we’ll work that out. I look forward to seeing you.


President ·zelenskyy: Thank you very much. I would be very
happy to come and would be happy to meet with you personally and
get to know. you better.

I am looking forward to our meeting and I also would like to invite you to visit Ukraine and come to the city of Kyiv which is a beautiful city. We have a beautiful country Which would welcome you. On the other hand, I believe that on September l we will be in Poland and we can meet in
Poland hopefully.

After that, it might be a very good idea for
you to travel to Ukraine. We can either take my plane and go to
Ukraine or we can take your plane, which is probably much better
than mine.


President Trump: Okay, we can work that out. I look forward
to seeing you in Washington and maybe in Poland because I think
we are going to be there at that time.


President Zelenskyy: Thank you very much, Mr. President.


President Trump: Congratulations on a fantastic job you’ve done. The whole world was watching. I’m not sure it was so much of an upset but congratulations.


President Zelenskyy: Thank you Mr. President bye-bye


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